The Bible teaches that purity of conduct includes truthfulness. “Sincerity and truth are what you require; fill my mind with your wisdom”. Psalms 51-6.
In my disgust for MBCI and the lies they told and continue to tell about Ultra Deck I forgot to mention that NCI does have good products. They just screwed the pooch with what they said about Ultra Deck and people do know the truth. Even NCI Board of Directors, but money not honesty and integrity rule them.
The Oklahoma Plant Sales Manager at the time and a man that I bought The Ultra Deck Roof from for more than a Decade and a 23 year sales employee of MBCI was a Truthful man and although we don’t speak anymore I would assume he still is. He is no longer employed by MBCI and was not employed at trial. However, he swore under oath that MBCI sold me the Ultra Deck as a water tight (hydrostatic) roof and that is the way MBCI marketed the Ultra Deck roof. I will also add that he was angry with me because this fact and all conversations were recorded as part of phone system quality control program.I also have Wayne Dickinson admitting the roof is Hydrostatic. He agreed the roof had been submerged in water, again hydrostatic test. But I digress. I publicly want to than Cody Rodden for being a man of Integrity and telling the TRUTH. The only one at NCI/MBCI who did.
A water-shedding, or hydro-kinetic roof, also known as an architectural roof, relies on a steep slope to shed rainwater immediately. These roofs typically incorporate the water-shedding capabilities in the architectural design of the roof itself, which gives rise to the term used to describe them. This roof is ideal for buildings where aesthetics are important, because the inbuilt water resistance is less obvious and just as secure.
Water-shedding roofs need an optimum gradient of at least 3:12 to begin with, which allows the water to run off down to the downspouts and drainage system. Dramatic visual effects are created using low profile standing seam panels with little to no exposed fasteners. The structural design of this style of metal roof is particularly important to provide adequate support for the shape and load of the roof, and installation usually includes an underlayment such as a 30-lb roofing felt or an adhesive-backed ice and water shield.
This article appears at the website of Whirlwind Steel:
How can MBCI claim in court that their roof to be water-shedding only but state on their website that the minimum slope is 1/4:12. Is MBCI right and everyone else wrong? Every where I read, a water shedding roof is to be installed on a minimum 3:12 slope. The right people have not seen this information yet.
I will be posting on u-tube video of the roof leaking by simply holding a water hose 3 feet above the roof. This roof is the Ultra Deck by MBCI and The roof from Whirlwind which is an exact copy.
I will also post what MBCI executives said about Ultra Deck. NCI you can run but the truth will win the day. Did you tell A R Ginn that the roof that built his fortune is not water tight at the side laps per Astm E 1514. Wayne Dickinson, you said the roof needs no sealant to pass any test. Without mastic it wont pass ASTM 1646 found in your own manual. But then you couldn’t tell the truth in court. Did Force Engineering or Faranbaugh tell you that. No, I didn’t think so. Strange that you told me that the roof had been submerged in water. And that the mastic was viable??? Now we both know the truth about that one. If NCI and MBCI are truthful then release the 200 documents. Oh that is right, your vice president of manufacturing said in deposition, under oath that the roof would come unlocked with out the proper mastic. He said that in 2009, but in 2011 he said the roof needs no mastic. You all sounded like Parrots!
Found some interesting information that will help educate the public. The following are definitions from MBMA (Metal Building Manufacturers Association) Metal Building System Manual. The definitions define the 2 basic types of standing seam roof panels.
Metal panel systems that are designed to withstand being submersed in water for a period of time are called hydrostatic panels. Hydrostatic roof details rely on sealant to keep water from infiltrating the joints and seams. Hydrostatic roof details can be used at almost any slope (1/4:12 minimum).
Metal panel systems that are designed to shed water are referred to as hydrokinetic. Hydrokinetic roof details are typically devoid of sealant and rely on water to freely shed over the joints. Hydrokinetic roof details are not to be used on roof slopes below 3:12.
Also found the following information at ehow.com.
Define a Structural Standing Seam Roof
By Ann Salter, eHow Contributor
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Standing seam roofing systems are composed of durable , overlapping, preformed panels secured with concealed fasteners and can be divided into two basic categories: structural and architectural. Structural standing seam roofing benefits from increased strength, water-tightness and design flexibility over architectural panel systems.
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o Structural, standing seam roofing panels have greater spanning capabilities and resistance to wind uplift. Designed for structural stability, they can be installed spanning over purlins instead of a solid deck, allowing for a lighter roof.
o The structural standing seam roof’s taller seams, mechanical joining and factory-applied sealants combine to form a water-tight system, even at extremely low slopes. Structural panels, unlike architectural, can be installed on slopes as low as 1/4:12, and can even be mounted vertically as a wall panel.
o Structural standing seam panels are available in much longer lengths than architectural. Factory-formed sheets can be shipped in more than 80-foot lengths, and the lengths of field-formed sheets are virtually unlimited. Clip attachment systems allow for necessary thermal expansion and contraction of longer panels
In conclusion….my opinion is that if a company claims that their standing seam roof is water shedding only, it should not be installed on any slope less than 3:12. I know there is at least one company that claims their standing seam roof panel is watershedding roof and not hydrostatic, but yet they still install sealant in the panels during fabrication…….?….what’s that all about. They also sell this panel for applications of less then 3:12 slope. They may deny knowing it was to be installed on a slope of less than 3:12 and at the same time will sell along with this panel the support purlins manufactured to a slope of less than 3:12 along with accompanying gutter. It is not hard to see what’s going on here. SELL THE PRODUCT….THEN REFUSE WARRANTY BECAUSE OF IMPROPER INSTALLATION…..AND PLAY DUMB ABOUT ANY BEFORE HAND KNOWLEDGE.